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ConfirmedFrontier06 Nov, 19:31 UTC

Nous Research releases Arete-27B, post-training Qwen3.8-27B toward Western values

Arete-27B announcement card from Nous Research
Nous Research

Company reports propaganda-flagged answers on an 803-prompt eval fell from 22% to 0.9% with fact scores up, Hermes Bench within noise of the base; weights and eval open.

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Why it matters

Nous fine-tuned Alibaba’s Qwen3.8-27B with about 52.8 million tokens of supervised text-only data and no RL. Its Propaganda_Eval spans seven value categories including freedom of expression and democracy. The company argues Chinese open weights ship with state-aligned behavior and that a thin late bias layer can be shifted without capability loss. Weights, the 803-prompt eval and training pairs are public. The official announcement post drew heavy engagement Friday evening UTC.

Key facts

  • Post-train of Qwen3.8-27B; ~52.8M SFT tokens, no RL
  • Propaganda_Eval: 803 prompts, 7 value categories
  • Propaganda rate 22% → 0.9% (company report)
  • Fact mean 2.32 → 2.98 / 5
  • Hermes Bench 65.60% vs base 65.77%
  • HF weights created 2026-11-06T19:31:28Z; announce post 21:48:45Z

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